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Postby avtovaz » Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:27 am

check out the pics on this post i just found on the Lada forum...

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mancs wrote:2103i:

What I meant with the roll center, is that the lada's roll center is somewhere near (40-50 mm if I remember correctly) the ground as factory ride hight. When lowering the car, it can go even below ground level, and thats bad of course, the distance between the roll center and the center of gravity will grow, and the roll factor will be much much bigger... I started drawing new suspension, witch includes raising the roll center, and some other minor geometry changes (like negativ camber gain, insted of the factory lada suspensions positive camber gain...), bigger track width, etc.

As for solving this problem, I started to mess around with the lower A-arms position, and size. The upper A-arm is almost "factory", exept for the bigger track width, its a bit bigger. I'v got quite far, but I dont have any money to make it :) So it only exists on paper :(

Ow btw, by SW you mean software? Well at the moment only paper, rulers etc :) But I'm learning 2 suspension design SW-s, but I always run out of the 30 day trial period :) One is better for the front suspension, but doesnt include rear solid axle. The other has the solid axle, so I can calculate anti squat, etc etc.


3zeR:

I have a friend in Greece, he also uses watts link in the rear. Not a bad idea. He uses mcpherson in the front. Here is his project:

Bmw diff in lada axle with watts:
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd54/nassos_ladavfts/DSC04465.jpg

Rear coilover (its non adjustable on this pic yet):
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd54/nassos_ladavfts/DSC04460.jpg

Front:
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd54/nassos_ladavfts/DSC04469.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd54/nassos_ladavfts/foto003-2.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd54/nassos_ladavfts/foto001-5.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd54/nassos_ladavfts/DSC04502-1.jpg

Btw he is also converting he's car to sr20det. Russians new mania is to use the whole s13-14 suspension (front and rear), with sr20det. Quite a job, but its worth it. My future plans also, but not the near future... :(
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Re: erm?

Postby martine30rally » Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:23 pm

Front suspension looks a bit iffy, the angle of that turret is opposite to that of which the suspension is designed for :?

Wouldnt trust getting in the car with that pigeon sh*t holding the rear turret together either :shock:

With the hassle of fitting the diff to the tubes and making a live axle out of it, would it not have made more sense just to fit IRS out of a more modern car?
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Re: erm?

Postby avtovaz » Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:25 pm

usually i like what people do to Lada, but in this case, a total erm??? is worthy!


IMHO the wishbones where really good, steering box maybe not but, i cant for the life of me work out why they have made an axel like that!!

Why not just use a volvo one like most other people do...


I just thought i would post it here as that is how a bmw part has been used, and i dont think you will ever see it used like that again!!!
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